A plane passenger has been left feeling ‘stupid’ after allowing a child to sit in their pre-book plane seat just to stop the youngster and their ‘entitled’ mum from moaning throughout the journey
They feel ‘stupid’ for swapping seats (stock)(Image: Getty Images)
But one passenger has been left frustrated after a parent expected them to give up their paid-for window seat so their child could sit in it instead. Taking to Reddit, the traveller admitted they understood why the youngster wanted the window seat, but felt it shouldn’t automatically become their responsibility to move.
They said: “Please stop expecting random adults to give up the window seat they paid for just so your child can look out the window.”
The passenger explained that they had specifically chosen and paid for the window seat, but were made to feel guilty after arriving at their row to find a child already sitting in it.
They added: “A child was already sitting in my window seat when I got to my seat. His mother saw me, and when I told her it was my seat, she said, ‘Oh please let him sit, he’ll fall asleep in 10 mins, and then you can take your seat.'”
Although they didn’t really want to give up their place, the traveller said they felt pressured with everyone around them watching, so eventually agreed.
Unfortunately, the child didn’t fall asleep after 10 minutes – or even during the flight.
The passenger said they waited around half an hour before asking the mother again if they could have their seat back, but were met with another plea.
She replied with four words that made the passenger livid, which were: “He’s getting cranky, please.”
Once again, the passenger didn’t feel able to argue and ended up spending the entire flight sitting in an aisle seat instead of the window seat they had paid for.
They said: “So I spent the whole flight in someone else’s seat, it was an aisle seat, eyeing her, and feeling stupid for not just saying no. It honestly ruined my mood.”
The experience prompted them to share a wider message to parents, arguing that a child’s disappointment shouldn’t mean a stranger has to give up the seat they’ve specifically chosen.
They added: “I understand your child is cranky. I understand they really, really want the window seat. But, that’s a you problem, book it and pay for it in advance.”
The traveller insisted they had nothing against children wanting window seats, but felt parents shouldn’t simply assume another passenger will give theirs up.
“I paid for my seat. I chose my seat. I would like to sit in my seat,” they wrote.
Reaction
The post sparked plenty of debate, with many users sympathising with the passenger and agreeing that parents should book the seats their children want rather than relying on other passengers to move.
One user said: “I’m also cranky, bored, and wanting to look out of the window.” Another user added: “If it goes down in a fiery mess, I want them to know which body is mine.”
A third user said: “I hate when people think they should get a free pass to everything just because they have a kid. Your kid is not anyone else’s responsibility.”
Holidaymakers may be entitled to claim compensation when an airline loses, damages or delays their luggage
The compensation available from an airline is generally limited(Image: anyaberkut via Getty Images)
Holidaymakers facing the misery of lost, damaged or delayed luggage could be entitled to compensation from their airline – but they need to act quickly.
Passengers arriving at their destination only to discover their suitcase has failed to make the journey with them have legal rights that can help them recover some of the costs. Citizens Advice says travellers have the right to claim compensation from an airline when checked-in luggage is delayed, lost or damaged. But there are important deadlines – and passengers should report a problem as soon as possible.
The consumer advice charity warns that the rules for cabin baggage are different. You can generally only claim for a problem with hand luggage where the airline was at fault.
Don’t leave it too late
Citizens Advice says holidaymakers should report missing or damaged luggage to the airline straight away. At the airport, this will normally involve completing a Property Irregularity Report (PIR) at the baggage claims area.
Passengers should keep a copy of the PIR, or obtain written confirmation from the airline if they report the problem later. Making a report does not necessarily mean a compensation claim has been made. Passengers will normally still need to submit a separate claim unless the airline agrees to pay certain expenses upfront.
There are strict deadlines
One of the biggest traps is assuming there is plenty of time to make a claim.
Citizens Advice says the usual deadlines are:
Damaged luggage: claim within seven days of receiving it.
Missing or damaged contents: claim within seven days of receiving the luggage.
Delayed or missing luggage: claim within 21 days of the flight.
Luggage not returned within 21 days: it is officially treated as lost, meaning passengers should make a claim as soon as possible.
A suitcase that eventually turns up after several days does not necessarily mean a passenger has lost their right to compensation. Citizens Advice says it is still possible to claim for delayed luggage if it is returned within the 21-day period.
What can you claim for?
The compensation available from an airline is generally limited. For delayed luggage, this can include the cost of essential items needed while waiting for the suitcase, such as toiletries and underwear.
Passengers may also be able to claim some of the cost of repairing or replacing luggage and its contents if they are lost or damaged. If a traveller has to collect delayed luggage themselves, says they may also be able to recover reasonable transport costs.
But holidaymakers should not assume they will receive the full replacement value of everything inside a suitcase. Airlines will often ask for receipts and proof of purchase, while Citizens Advice warns that they will not normally pay ‘new for old’ replacement costs.
There can also be restrictions around valuable, fragile or perishable items packed in checked luggage. Total compensation is generally limited to around £1,000 and is often considerably less.
Passengers cannot normally claim for stress or inconvenience caused by the luggage problem, or for knock-on problems such as missing a connection.
Keep every scrap of evidence
Anyone making a claim should keep hold of their paperwork.
Citizens Advice says airlines will usually expect passengers to provide documents such as:
their boarding pass;
luggage tags showing the identification number;
the PIR or written confirmation that the problem was reported;
receipts for emergency purchases made because of delayed luggage;
proof of purchase for lost or damaged belongings;
photographs showing damage; and
estimates for the cost of repairs where relevant.
Travellers should keep copies of their claim and the original documents.
How to make the claim
Passengers should check with their airline to find out how it wants compensation claims submitted. If there is no specific claim form, Citizens Advice says travellers may need to write to the airline’s customer service department.
The charity advises making clear that the claim is being made under the Montreal Convention. The claim should include details of the flight, including the date, flight number, departure point and destination.
Travellers should explain what happened, set out the amount being claimed and provide a detailed list of the luggage or contents that were lost or damaged. Any essential items bought because of the delay should also be listed, with copies of supporting receipts and other evidence.
What if several airlines were involved?
Passengers travelling on connecting flights operated by different airlines may be able to claim against any of them. However, Citizens Advice says most airlines expect the claim to be made against the last airline boarded.
An airline cannot simply refuse to deal with a claim because another carrier was involved. If a passenger gets nowhere they can seek advice from the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).
What if the airline rejects your claim?
Holidaymakers who are unhappy with an airline’s response can take the matter further. Citizens Advice recommends first trying to resolve the complaint through the appropriate process.
The CAA can take up complaints against airlines or airports in certain circumstances, although its role depends on whether the airline or airport belongs to an approved alternative dispute resolution scheme. As a last resort, passengers can consider taking a case to the small claims court.
A luggage claim can generally be taken to court within two years of the flight, although court action can be costly and time-consuming.
Check your insurance too
There is another option that could prove easier and more generous. Citizens Advice says that if luggage is covered by travel insurance or a home contents policy, making an insurance claim may be preferable.
This is because insurance can potentially provide more money and may be easier to claim through than pursuing the airline.
Passengers needing further help can contact the Citizens Advice consumer helpline on 0808 223 1133 or use its online service.
The charity also advises checking the specific rules applying to the airline, as individual procedures and deadlines can vary. More information here.
